This And That Podcast

Sunday, July 17, 2005

07/16/05 This And That Podcast

07/16/05 Podcast (Show Number 22)

39 minutes | 24.6 MB

Jeff and Pat join the Tour De France and meet Lance Armstrong! They take a sound-seeing trip to 'Viva Mexico' (drive in beer and scantily-clad women) and discuss Machu Picchu, having the grumpies, the Beatles "Nowhere Man" (with a different take from Jeff), Bob Moog, and cockroaches. Plus lots of crazy out-takes. Pat and Jeff are in nutty moods and the laughter is contagious!

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Show Notes:

Le Tour de France
The Grumpies
Machu Picchu
Pat Guests On Borderline
Soundseeing: Viva Mexico
Nowhere Man redux
Karl Rove And A New Progressive Radio Station
Bob Moog - Get Well
Dallas Minute
     * Patrizio's
     * Cockroach Hall Of Fame
Cockroach stories
Thanks and Listener Mail
     * Domestic Life
     * Mitsuki's Blog
     * Neal Guye's Music
     * Whole Lot Of Nonsense
     * Jeff B
     * Random Digressions
     * Air Ferg
Outtakes (oh yeah!)

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  • At July 18, 2005 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Pat & Jeff,

    I have been fortunate enough to have had a michelada at a New Year's Day tamale party many moons ago. I think it was given to me because I was sporting a severe hangover and being a party pooper. First I was handed a shot of tequila and then was told to chase it with the michelada..hhmm so good! It was the perfect cure:

    From NPR , August 15, 2001
    From our U.S. border states, trickling up from Mexico, Michelada is roughly translated as "my cold beer". This spicy cocktail concoction is a beer with lime and some peppery seasoning. It's kind of like a Tomato Beer without the tomato.

    i n g r e d i e n t s

    1/2 lime, preferably a Key lime
    Coarse salt
    2 dashes Worcestershire sauce
    1 dash soy sauce
    1 dash Tabasco sauce
    1 pinch black pepper
    1 dash Maggi seasoning, optional
    12 ounces beer, preferably a dark Mexican beer like Negra Modelo.

    d i r e c t i o n s
    Squeeze the juice from the lime and reserve. Salt the rim of a highball glass by rubbing it with the lime and dipping it in coarse salt. Fill with ice.
    Add lime juice, Worcestershire, soy sauce, Tabasco, pepper and Maggi, if desired.
    Pour in beer, stir and serve, adding more beer as you sip.

    P.S. Can you tell me what songs you played on this episode?

  • At July 19, 2005 , Blogger Pat said...

    Hi Shelly, the recipe you listed above was slightly different than what we had at Viva Mexico. The one at VM most certainly had tomato juice in it. The recipe you gave, however, sounds very intersting. We'll have to try it for sure.

    Jeff doesn't like tomatoes! I remember the first time I invited him to dinner. I made spaghetti sauce! He likes spaghetti as long as it's not too tomatoey. Go figure.

    Jeff, will you answer the song question?

  • At July 19, 2005 , Anonymous Neil said...

    Jeff & Pat - Viva Mexico!! The soundseeing tour was excellent, though I'm not too sure about the Michelada. Unfortunately, my dear town does not have a drive-thru liquor store with girls in short-shorts, though Fremont (25min away) does. It's right across the street from the HS football field. Icky.

    Pat, my secret podcast co-host, feel free to stop by Borderline anytime. And Jeff, if you're ever on the show again, I'll make sure to let you know I'm recording. Sorry!

  • At July 19, 2005 , Blogger Pat said...

    Hmmm, how come no one is telling us if they would have stayed or fled when that roach ran into the bed?

    And, what about how to get rid of the grumpies?


  • At July 19, 2005 , Blogger Ferg said...


    Personally, I would have left. I don't mind cockroaches, but I think Jeff might be too particular about my technique.

    As for the grumpies - I think your trip to Viva Mexico helped somewhat...speaking of which, Shelly's Michelada sounds better than the one with tomato sauce. Perhaps we'll try some this weekend...

    But if the booze don't cure your blues, get it on - that never hurts.

  • At July 20, 2005 , Anonymous Neil said...

    Pat - the sure-fire way to get rid of the grumpies is to come to Nebraska! Well, except this week: word on the street is that today will be over 100 with v. high humidity.

    RE: the cockroach - as much as I hate hypothetical questions, I have to say I'd go. Going, going, gone. 'nuff said.

  • At July 20, 2005 , Blogger Owner said...

    I have to agree with Neil on Nebraska being a cure for the grumpies. They don't call it "The Good Life" for nothing.

    I was up in Lincoln & the Big O for the 4th of July and it put a serious spanking on my bad mood. Or maybe it was the alcohol and sweet corn I consumed while I was there. They have some killa' corn up there.

  • At July 20, 2005 , Blogger chris in tulsa said...

    Hey, I thought I would leave a comment.. first.. I have been to Mexico quite a few times.. lived there for awhile and never had a Michelada with Tomato juice.. actually.. you can get the non spicy kind.. mostly ice, beer and limon with salt on the rim of the glass... nice in the hot summer time.

    Anyway, I started listening to podcasts last week and picked yours up... I live and work in Oklahoma and travel all over Oklahoma and north Texas, for my job. Last week, i racked up over 1000 miles on my blue taurus. Podcasting takes me away from the drive and away from the only radio that I can usually find which is angry old guys yelling about democrats, and being a democrat, that meant that I had to listen to mostly music.. but now I have found your podcast and others and my long drives seem to fly by.


    Chris B. in tulsa

    I do have a blog it's


  • At July 20, 2005 , Anonymous d said...

    This isn't funny, but I guarantee it will work.

    Danni's Grumpies Cure:

    1) Long walk in a pretty neighborhood listening to Anthem Alert on your iPod. Alternatives: Dave Brubeck, soundtrack to Bridget Jones' Diary, Barometer Soup or Borderline podcast

    2) Go home to the air conditioning, start with a mountain pose, lifting your arms up and breathing deeply and in a controlled manner, do a few down dogs and cat stretch's, finish with a shoulder stand. Most calming yoga pose for eliminating anxiety or stress (usually the cause of grumpies) is a really good shoulder stand, and into a plow for good measure

    3) Squirt a little jasmine on your pillow. Put your jammies over an air conditioning vent with a dryer sheet tucked in between. Take a long bath, and take a glass of chilly wine with you. Use a relaxing scent like eucalyptis and peppermint.

    4) Post bath, give yourself a foot massage. I don't know who got the idea that you can't give yourself one and have it be great, because you'll feel great afterwards.

    5) Make a mental list of the things that make you happy, and call your mom/sister/brother/puppy/best friend/favorite podcaster and just tell them you love them and let them tell you how cool you are.

    6) Pick up a book by Sarah Vowell/David Sedaris/Laurie Notaro etc, something to make you take yourself less seriously and laugh a little. Turn on a floor fan and soft music and sleep (also a very typical cause of Grumpies Maximus)

    7) Before you go to sleep, use deep, meditative breathing techniques and focus on something positive. You'll wake up a new person!

  • At July 20, 2005 , Blogger Pat said...

    Danni - all good suggestions, but I was hoping for a good romp, maybe with some hair pulling!

  • At July 20, 2005 , Anonymous danni said...

    Well, that works too. I was thinking of myself, as a single woman. But, I know of a few other sure fire relaxation/grumpies cures too... :P

  • At July 20, 2005 , Blogger Jeff said...

    Shelly's recipe for the Michelada sounds awesome - too bad I don't like tomato juice! I would say the one's that they had at Viva Mexico were probably pretty cheesy (thought without the cheese).

    Danni's ideas for the 'grumpies' are great - too bad I'm not a woman! hehehe.. Pat, I'll pull your hair in the studio.. How about that? Will that make you feel good? I'll make you feel good, baby. yeah... I'm on it. A little bit of hair pulling.... uh huh...

    Chris B. - welcome to the show and thanks for listening. I do about 90% of my podcast listening in the car during my commute - the other 10% is done at the gym. But my commute isn't all that long so I can appreciate your need for some good pocasts. Check out Air Ferg if you haven't already as well. If you like us, you'll no doubt like them as well!

    We'll be thinking of ya on our next podcast!

  • At July 20, 2005 , Anonymous hot, hot danni said...

    Jeffy, how 'bout this Jeff substitute:

    1) Long walk in a rough, whorish neighborhood listening to Monster Magnet on your iPod.

    2) Go home to the air conditioning, do 50 sit ups, 50 crunchs and extensions (I love this one, but it hurts)

    3) smoke a bowl

    4) take a shower b/c at this point, you stink like ass

    5) Take out Basic Instinct, watch as much as needed


    7) Before you go to sleep, use deep, focus on how lucky you are to have Pat in your life. You'll wake up a new person!

    Kisses, sweets!

  • At July 22, 2005 , Anonymous Scott Johnson said...

    What I'm really wondering is where the heck is this 'Viva Mexico' place. You guys neglected to give out an address for those of us in Dallas who would really enjoy drinking Micheladas at a place with scantily clad women walking around.

  • At July 22, 2005 , Blogger Jeff said...

    Scott - you're right! I can't believe we overlooked that! Sorry..... It is on the southside of NW Highway just west of the intersection with Lemmon/Marsh.

  • At July 26, 2005 , Blogger bpende said...

    You guys rock... totally. I've been camp-counseloring for the last week, so I missed this one when it came out. Just some basic comments for ya'll.

    Why stage 15? If you'd asked, I would have recommended 16, it was much flatter. Although to hear Jeff huff about how hard the climb was, was well worth the time.

    K... and the Sheryl Crow song. Really. What a total slap in Pat's face. Jeff, you should be ashamed of yourself. That scrawny littl singer is going down... one of these days.

    Jeff... I work for the pharmaceutical industry. I think we might make a drug or two that would deal with that little mood swing issue you've got going on there... What the hell is going on there at the end... have you guys gotten into the fun lasagne?

    My ego is huge right about now. After your kind words, I'm grinning from ear to ear.

  • At July 27, 2005 , Blogger bpende said...

    Hey... I forgot to ask about the Roach Hall of Fame.

    Does the guy have a Roach-maninov at the piano?

    or maybe a Karl Roach on the phone, leaking confidential information?

    or Hillary Roach-am Clinton, yammering about computer games instead of dealing with progressive issues?


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